Ya I had heard about the problems with the ridgelines, but I wasn't sure if they were carrying over to the other rifles or not cause there was some chatter about the Mesa's as well Sep 12, 2022 #4 Big Iron FNG Joined Bryan Litz from AB did some extreme testing of carbon barrels for heat related issues and CA was the winner. Broz, Your are correct. Or when you all are purchasing them are you buying blanks and having a gunsmith spin them up for you? Please see pictures for more details. Christensen Arms Reviews 374 Excellent 4.6 VERIFIED COMPANY christensenarms.com Visit this website Write a review total 1-star 5% Filter Sort: Most relevant Larry Argo 2 reviews US Feb 19, 2023 Bought a Mesa in 7mm rem mag Bought a Mesa in 7mm rem mag. Weight is not a deal breaker for me. Once clear, fire 2 three-shot groups. Please keep us updated. No failures, no problems feeding with either AICS mags or Magpul mags. When I walked the rep through my barn sized groupings and insane wandering zero, the CA representative was entirely dismissive and LAUGHED saying "well yeah this happens to all guns when they heat up". My issues with Christensen Arms barrel problems. I have three currently and had 6 others. The staff that attended was the real deal. The large sample data we have all combined with CA carbon barrels is very large. Introduced in 2018, it is rugged, simple, and accurate. I don't make a ton of money. This is a True/False flag set by the cookie. ~!m"2ie )a+BPE The thumbhole stock fits like a custom suit. The communications and quick responses to my questions from Jeff, Kystren and Michelle made the purchase of of my rifle a great experience. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Description. YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. I shot the Mesa yesterday at a 100 yard indoor range and printed sub .40 3 shot groups. good luck with yours. Hotjar sets this cookie to detect the first pageview session of a user. 20 39
Thanks again. This is due to outside of the barrel sleeves not being concentric with the bore. The cookie is updated every time data is sent to Google Analytics. It is absolutely off the charts. If weight isn't an issue then I'd personally go with an HMR Pro if you want a chassis style rig or the approach if you want a traditional stock. Is there a difference between the barrels used for your 1/2 MOA rifles versus your Sub-MOA rifles? I just purchased an MPR in 300prc I have put about 100 rounds through this rifle and I can say it is a flat out tack driver, I love the folding stock makes it easy to pack, I put a sig sauer scope on it, also a carbon fiber bipod which matches up nicely with the barrel. For the amount of $$$ they cost, one would think they would shoot sub 0.5 MOA all day long Any thoughts? I wish the rifle would have come with an extra shim out of the box though. I was debating on a .338 Lapua (Savage, Christensen Arms, MPA, Sako, and custom build). It is the tactical style. Might be a foolish question but is the barrel torqued on well? Best Group: .200 in. hb``e``)f`e`H "@16S>00=;T Last time I talked to him he wasnt getting the results he was hoping for. If this poses a problem, CALL US before . Thanks all for the info! How durable are carbon fiber wrapped barrels? Labeled Verified, theyre about genuine experiences.Learn more about other kinds of reviews. At this point I'm going to email christensen. I'm definitely a fan of the XLR over the Mega Orias chassis, even though it's just an Element chassis, but then again I also shoot an XLR on my own match rifle currently so I know I'm slightly biased. Also the fact the POI shift would change relative to round count and periods of rest is really indicative of bad barrel deficiencies. 01 CLEAR BORE First make sure that the barrel is clean and free of any oil or solvents from the manufacturing process. First make sure that the barrel is clean and free of any oil or solvents from shipping or the manufacturing processes. That is why I am trying to reach out to see what actual real world experience is with them. That being said, I see that a lot of people are commenting on the CS of Christensen Arms, good or bad this concerns me that they even have to call CS in the first place. A 3rd shooter fired 2 groups thru it. 5Y:t_0Z']P\yN0,0 The blind box mag is the pits and will be replaced. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. With carbon fiber on the fore-end and barrel, and a skeletonized folding stock, the MPR weighs just over 8 pounds and is quite portable. A few days later, I went into The Armories in Winter Garden Florida and purchased a Christensen Arms rifle. These representatives will help ease the extensive licensing and shipping complications associated with purchasing products from our U.S. website. For minor things Christensen Arms also can authorize qualified dealers to handle issues themselves provided the dealer is willing and there aren't costs associated with it. It may not display this or other websites correctly. }VG-s@}M@foX{]omAzET;ghBPA_(#]X>hq5Q'g^`Fmz7OxC.,/GeBAE;V;@
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I would also say that you should make sure he adjusts the LOP and cheek to his needs. He just bought a RPR 6mm and he did tell me how well he thought it shot, as in he was impressed with it's accuracy. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. You must log in or register to reply here. Always sold out online. I bought a 22 LR from Al's sporting goods in Idaho Falls Idaho. All but a few shot extremely well. And finally got it. 0000057435 00000 n
Easy Day. Now they only wrap their barrels. Given the different thermal expansion rates of carbon fiber and steel stress relief would likely cause delamination and would void any warranty anyhow. I want to start off by saying I am no rookie when it comes to long guns. I can wait to get it sighted in. The company's first product, though, was not a barrel. I got the magazines I needed in very quick time. Many factors influence accuracy such as ammunition, conditions, shooter ability, etc. How much better can we expect rifles and cartridges to perform? I had one built with a Christensen barrel and it consistently shoots in the .3s. 0000013007 00000 n
This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I love my gun but I always need a cheek riser. Thanks for sharing. Many have commented get about 500 rounds through it and then come back and tell us how it is going. . Last time I checked, they only offered 9 and 10. 0000000016 00000 n
Ive contact all three companies involved and to make a long story short . Gun would not come close to a 1 inch group. I've had the chance to shoot both a Bergara Premier LRP Elite and a Chistensen TFM in the past year (more experience with the TFM), so here's my brief comparison between the two: I have a HMR in 6.5 that has about 600 rounds through it with zero problems.It shoots .4/.5 with handloaded 130 Berger hunting vld's over 42 grains of H4350.The only complaint I have with the rifle is that I wish it had a heavier profile barrel than a #5 contour. But the stock is built like a tank, and with a solid rest, the rifle really reaches out there. The large sample data we have all combined with CA carbon barrels is very large. They make them in-house (instead of using something like a Proof barrel) and the problem is that they're either . UPC. It can't just disappear. Prophet river sells only , corlane sports fixes only in this case (I didnt buy from them ) and Christensen arms only builds the gun , they dont sell or fix them !! If you are experiencing accuracy . So whats next? I had never "shot" a Christensen Arms gun, nor did I know anything about them. Very Pleased !!!! This review is the only one I have seen, and it seems that maybe CA has not gotten their carbon barrel tech quite to where they thought it was. However, no POI shift was ever the same and never returned to a previous zero. inch shift and a group I can't even measure. I have read about some, as with a few from word of mouth. Arms rifles has to do with their carbon fiber barrels. Either from Christensen themselves or Midwest Gun Works? Christensen Arms barrels are designed using precision engineering adopted from the aerospace industry; Christensen Arms Rem 700 compatible carbon-fiber barrels are crafted using a proprietary layered design that offers any marksman superior accuracy and performance. 0000005104 00000 n
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We take them on trade all the time for our custom rifles. Will try it again this weekend to see if its fixed. Mag. Bolt was stiff and needed a rubber hammer to open after firing. They dont build rifles like they used to. I keep hearing shooter error, some of it is, no one is perfect. No offense but your CTR groups are far from bugholes or consistent either. But not a pant load. Just to comment on the American Gunner, I've surprisingly good results with it on both my CTR and my TAC A1. I have been saving up for two years to purchaseone of your firearms. He was shooting .75 moa with his 30-06 and hunting loads right beside me on the first outing. In gusty 15mph wind! It may not display this or other websites correctly. The cylindrical machined titanium action is mated to a Christensen Arms 416R stainless steel, featherlight contour, bead-blasted barrel with removable stainless steel radial brake. HlSK\1Sx$cY, )?$ye);3N:
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#jWcyD"}ea2CJT)>EBUS1J_^QFplr2 Christensen Arms 8010116800. The weight is somewhat average/light for a standard, pencil or light profile barrels. Just sprayed all types of ammo. In the quest for ever-better accuracy, they are sure to be part of the equation. I would try a different scope before I blamed the rifleI agree with Cory - You can not accurately draw the conclusion you have from the targets you have shown. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. .300 Ultra Mag., reloads. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It stores a true/false value, indicating whether it was the first time Hotjar saw this user. Like yeah thanks for that wisdom guy. With factory Hornady 108-grain ELD Match loads, it shoots .5 MOA (or better), making 1,000-yard hits on steel with relative ease. I called Christensen Arms and received a rude reception. call john mogle . Was called back in a very timely manner and the question was answered by staff, who by the way, had mounted the bipod on the very rifle I had. I proceeded to take it to my local indoor range to zero the rifle and chrono loads before taking it out to my outdoor thousand. Some of the data that are collected include the number of visitors, their source, and the pages they visit anonymously. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". I feel that Christensen rifles are of the highest quality and the best value out there. $799.99. The large cluster of shots was at the end of the day. I was told that the action was re-Ceracoated and the bottom plate was replaced. As youll see, some are made for competition, and some are made for hunting. My $950 RPR does this after a fast 30rds at distance and a zero check at 100 with a HOT barrel and can. I can shoot a Tac A1 half to 3/4 moa from a bag and atlas. The only x other issue I had was I got the manual for a MPR rifle instead of the ELR. a burden to carry all day even if you dont get to take a shot. I appreciate all the factual based information from everyone. H1n0EwBsI1z Ed8CoZ+HKkSIB:W=\>+eGJD jxu[Vkp`bSX Mf2rxOp=sEsa9}wrf]kFx nbwMffHn6 0000057372 00000 n
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Here are 8 tips for writing great reviews. Currently borrowing a Tikka Tac A1 till I get my MPR back, its shipping tomorrow. Trigger: Single Stage, TriggerTech. I spend two hours shooting Hornady 178 ELD Match. Its not slowly unscrewing is it? Anyone can write a Trustpilot review. Take on the toughest hunts with our most popular hunting rifle. My 700 in a krg same thing. It's heat soak Like all these reports of heat issues with CA barrels are completely true. Manufacturer: Christensen Model: Ranger 22 . Live re barrel break in can minimize these problems and is much, much more fun! Wrap a bad barrel and it is still bad. I own several nice firearms and the quality of this Christensen is heads and shoulders above any of my other guns. Sounds like you may be reading from too many fb pages. This cookie is installed by Google Universal Analytics to restrain request rate and thus limit the collection of data on high traffic sites. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Pro Hunter is a near-perfect expression of the modern long-range hunting rifle. Unopened or handled. 2006 - 2023 BPS Direct, L.L.C. i own two my custom one is the best rifle i own!!! i've had problems with my boys but that issue was the feed ramp. You must log in or register to reply here. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. My experience with Christensen CS has not been impressive. I'm no competitive shooter, but I know more than a thing or two about guns. 550 N. Cemetery Rd. On the other hand my match rifles don't shift POI during a 20 round string. All about money with next to 0 quality.. trash.. Remington 700 Std full length scope rail that I ordered does not fit any one of my 700's, short or long action. Every one should own at least one Christensen rifle. __utmb cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. Like thats basic physics, pretty sure its called the thermodynamics Obviously hot barrels have a POI shift. Weve seen a number of tactical/hunter hybrids recently, but the B-14 HMR really nailed the concept. All one shot deals. Any thoughts on a good place to start looking for used glass? 24 inch heavy carbon fiber wrapped barrel plus a muzzle device. Their website says, "Fits any standard Remington 700. I have been a long time reader but not an official member. 360 rounds down range and I get 1/3 to 1/5 groups at 100. So unless proven otherwise I'll stick with residual stress as the cause. It makes the toughest targets seem like chip shots. IMO CA having this policy on their website is just an out to allow them to brush off defects on to the owner. I see the benefit of CF Barrels, and this, while disappointing, has not turned me off to them. They are great barrels. i cant remember is this their match grade barrel. The second question is: Whats the most accurate hunting rifle made? The answer to that is a lot simpler. That's why they only last 200 rounds. Good rifles will print some loads very well. Not Yet Rated. . Do I need to break in my barrel? The specs on these cartridges also call for faster twist rates to optimize their performance with heavy-for-caliber target bullets with high BCs. This is an impressive debut for Daniel Defense, which is a newcomer to the high-end bolt-action rifle scene. @*~13J8cujZ,,;0upX!
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So, the answer is a Tikka in a Bravo. It was actually a .22 LR rifle, and the new Ranger 22 takes Christensen Arms back to its roots. He also did mention he had to back off like 4 grain powder due to bolt opening hard on his Christensen vs his rem 700 in 300 rum with same load. CA's machine work is very good, I see quality in the product. I bought a new Mesa Long Range rifle, it had scratches on the barrel and dark discoloration on the bottom plate logo. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. All these cartridges shoot .243-caliber bullets at velocities in the 2700 to 2950 fps range. 0000018344 00000 n
Yikes!!! when your wrapping carbon fibre with a little skinny barrel underneith is fine with normal magnums and nonmagnums, the problem with the 300 ultra is it heats up the barrel too much because the steel is so thin and will actually burn the barrel out in around 200 rounds, now that is just what I read from a few people and I can't remember on which Its called the Switch because you can easily swap out barrels. This doesnt look like a traditional hunting rifle, but dont let that fool you. We use dedicated people and clever technology to safeguard our platform. The 6.5 PRC is a real pleasure to shoot. Many people may have good experience with CA but it isn't worth the risk of getting one of these lemons. This is not a problem with the MPR because it can be made to fit almost anyone. Finish, fit and machining are excellent. Like truly thought something was broken. 0000006535 00000 n
Fist group out was .391 inch. You won't find many horror stories here! Spoke with Christensen today. Am a bit disappointed. Christensen Arms Ranger 22 .22 LR 18" Threaded Barrel 10 Rds 801-12002-00; Item Description; 100% New In The Box. "This is a Christensen Arms 700 338 Lapua 26" Factory Carbon Rifle Barrel For Remington 700. Companies can ask for reviews via automatic invitations. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Daniel Defense Delta 5. ergonomic platform featuring a palma stainless steel barrel along with a carbon fiber, composite stock. I've tried everything for loads, even use a hyskore shooting bench. My dealer tells me Christensen had some problems because they sourced out some things, but now things are done in-house except like the Triggertech triggers. Hopefully with the introduction of the 7PRC Christensen will begin offering 8 twist 7mm blanks. Don't second guess this rifle it is an amazing shooter you won't be disappointed. The rifle runs on Brownings smooth three-lug action and is fed by its rotary magazine, which is easy to load and utterly reliable. Checked all hardware for proper torque. Junk. The Mesa FFT utilizes an ultralight contour stainless steel barrel with a Cerakote finish, seamless removable radial muzzle brake, and is . Are my muzzle threads different? Action. Is my understanding correct that the first shots you fired in this range session was the 25 round group where the rifle was walking while warming up? You are using an out of date browser. group very well . [lJG@I`:= *Px32.rsM)U Y.J!+,9GbocbuBh:V:khT 4y rSHpJ;WiK1h#us"g#V]V{GGG{I^|\q;v[
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Sent the rifles serial number and specifics to that rifle. Likely the barrel wasn't stress relieved prior to carbon fiber wrapping so the residual stresses are still there. It may not display this or other websites correctly. JavaScript is disabled. I bought a picatinny rail like the one on my new Ranger, because I need to make some modifications to accommodate a scope. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Just $1 per month , Among the dozens of accurate production rifles weve tested over the years, these are the best for long-range precision hunting, We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. Great guys to talk to and they seem to care. You literally gave us NOTHING to go off of. I really like the gun but accuracy is very poor. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/source-for-bergara-extractor.6914434/, seriously, there wasn't even 1/8" of clearance, One Piece vs Two Piece (Removable Forend) Chassis. Save big on firearms, accessories, tactical gear, clothing, and ammunition from now until March 29. Im highly educated and I know when I don't know what Im doing. Now I was also shooting multiple different ammos for the other stuff in post 2. I have called but can never get a person to talk to. I was sorta on the fence on them, but have more confidence after reading all the positive reviews. Tolerance and modern milling means there is no need for a "break in" anymore. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/christensen-arms-mpr-initial-review.6879393/, Failure to feed Custom Shop RPR 6.5 Creedmoor, Christensen Arms MPA .308 Proven TACK driver, Carbon Fiber Wrapped 16 Barrel, Blessed Rifle Shoots .5 MOA w FACTORY LOADS, Christensen Arms MPR Handguard Top Rail Solution, Christensen arms 6.5 prc with McMillan game hunter stock. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. */AbaC|_%#Z AEh"{5XE)-Tww*"-KQC8Nf'{v;lkD4&M :%FFd34vt@m4qN\OWe
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But with the issues I was having I knew if I kept shooting it would show the true nature of the issue. The measured weight is 708.4 grams for the barrel and 136.7 grams for the break gas block assembly totaling 844.11 grams. H|Un0+(,J~D(QCL;jdI!.-zP`0a1=T7zF67r QN d^Hf"YlsO'a&I.AD11*Q&0J
BZ\y/s9 (u8itlpa BOLT-ACTION. In comparison, a competitor's rifle with a 26-inch steel varmint/target barrel weighs 11 poundsthat's 4.3 pounds of extra weight the Ridgeline doesn't have. Around Christmas, I bought an MPR in .300 Win Mag with the 26 inch carbon fiber barrel. Mine shoots damn good with both factory and reloads. Their customer service is second to none! Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. If the rifle is properly bedded, the scope munts and rings good to go, and the scope is good too that pretty much leaves the barrel. SEE IT. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. A friend of mine recently bought a christiansen Ridgeline in 300 rum, has carbon fiber barrel. CAs recommends a "barrel break in" that is completely ridiculous. I routinely shoot "long distance" at Marine Base Quantico on the Marine Corps Shooting Team Club's 1000 yard ranges. The ones Ive had experience with, you bore scope the barrels and they have the roughest machining to them compared to other barrel manufacturers (proof and benchmark), tooling and chatter marks in the rifling. Go look through my comments, I DEFENDED CA against these rumors when I first got this gun. I would regularly receive notices that the item I wanted was available - but when I attempted to purchase the item - the same day - it was "out of stock". My complaints; the bolt is rough and difficult to close. what cal and factory or reloads?? I have one that will not group consistently at all. JavaScript is disabled. 20 0 obj
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Verification can help ensure real people write reviews about real companies. I allowed for about a 10 minute break. To make the shopping experience with Brownells better, we have a number of representatives in Europe. In Stock. To replace the factory Remington 7mmRM barrel. My test gun printed many groups with factory ammo in the .4s, making it a great long-range hunting rifle. Great rifles shoot all kinds of ammo well. It goes against our guidelines to offer incentives for reviews. Thats why Christensen Arms builds an exceptionally lightweight. I just purchased a CA Mesa in 300WM. While its design is influenced by competition rifles, particularly in the stock, it retains the moderate weight (7.3 pounds) and lively handling that a good big-game rifle requires. I shoot maybe 10 rounds out of my steel barrel and then let it cool. Well, that's disappointing. Took it to THREE separate gun stores around town and none of their rifle accept it. 0000024402 00000 n
This includes gear reviews, features on technical innovations, stories on shooting techniques and general hunting coverage with the occasional fishing story thrown into the mix. Google Analytics sets this cookie, to determine new sessions/visits. At 100 yards it opens to almost 2 inches. Well over 200 rounds fired and it just won't dial in. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The Ranger 22 comes with a zero m.o.a. The carbon-fiber wrapped 26" 416R stainless steel barrel is backed by Christensen Arms with a sub-MOA guarantee. Wv[9k.Ji#2AlTJ-w]cs_Z vOjEA6XDNJCn,SS@1^m,7VSWO0&e'M,,m[k\nIDq${G%/kW= b*KBwe`, l
*7f?2Kw65l[Nzf! The cookie is set by Google Analytics and is deleted when the user closes the browser. Action: Semi-Auto, direct-impingement gas system. This bolt-action .22 incorporates many of the innovative features found . MIj.kT+-"(.&6xlBeZE;G\_=+!? They made me feel a bit foolish for not knowing that there was an option for that, a couple menus deeper. I am going to give it one more shot at the range with myself and another shooter from a solid rest. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Some are high-end rifles costing several thousand dollars, and some are inexpensive enough that you might be tempted to buy two, just because. Pretty disappointed with service. 9. Fast response and helpful. I mean I still hadn't even gotten a rough zero. Like the Ridgeline, it is by no means a competition rifle, but it is no slouch at the range. If you are using a screen reader and are having problems using this website, please call 1-800-227-7776 for assistance. I have never had a bad experience with Bergara CS, ever! It shoots Hornady 140 Match, 140 AM gunner and 143 Precision Hunter ammo into tight groups. Sent back to them for warranty work. After talking for 10 minutes the rep begrudgingly offered me to send in my rifle under warranty but I was so pissed I said I'd call him back if/when I decide to do so. Love the light weight. 0000001368 00000 n
It was not consistent either and I'd experience groups and group shifts from 4 inches to over 10 inches. Everyone CHRISTENSEN ARMS RIDGELINE FFT - $2,417.99 I emailed eurooptic and was told basically that I was smoking the barrel and that it's not designed for any high volume of fire, and that anything more than 5 rounds at a time is abusing it. I saw the wrapped barrel years ago on a hunting show and got excited after researching it I will stick with a little more weight, better accuracy and longer life. Great service and communication with Christianson Arms. They remove a lot of steel when profiling the barrel which induces stress in the barrel. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. This cookie is set by Google Analytics and is used to distinguish users and sessions. send it back it has a quarantee. 0000632180 00000 n
It is contoured for a lightweight profile and chambered with the 22 lr. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. The Creedmoor is the hottest cartridge on the Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. I just purchased my first Christensen Arms Firearm. They said they changed out the barrel for a new one. Knowing I had ejection problems and accuracy issues that eventually ended up with the rifle being returned. trailer
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