Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. Upload or insert images from URL. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . Hope this helps some others develop some loads. No issues there. Save Share. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. You say that now. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. JavaScript is disabled. Powder is generally +/- 0.1 gr as it dropped using a Hornady powder drop on my Dillon xl650(although usually right at the listed charge). LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. All I had was word of mouth and books. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Thanks for your patience. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. JavaScript is disabled. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. Thanks for the input everyone! I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. When we are sold out, we are sold out. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. Unique. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. 6 grains? http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. Later, he started a granite countertop business allows him the time to pursue his passion for long-range shooting and high-country public land mule deer and elk hunting. That's why when I figured out that my previous loads were unsafe I called Berry's to get correct info. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. I load 115gr Berry's plated at 1.125" with 4.5gr of Titegroup. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. "Given adequate penetration, a larger diameter bullet will have an edge in wounding effectiveness. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. Clear editor. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. Thank you for sharing Hodgdon Reloading data. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. I have some Titegroup I am planning on using in 9mm. JavaScript is disabled. It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. Makes 900fps out of my G17. 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. I am gonna give it a try. I use tight group for 9mm. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Nuts accurate. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. ABOUT WYATT: Wyatt is 14 years old and has also hunted Africa, Hawaii and other states as well. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. Hmmm, I use the .40 cavity and get pretty consistent 4.5gn drops with Titegroup. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . Nuff said. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Obligatory start low and work your way up Baseball won over for a time when it took him to Gonzaga University on scholarship as a pitcher for the Bulldogs. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. 3 grains? Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. Then work up from there. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. Probably saved me some money. Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. I am also using the Xtreme bullets. Really..so, how would someone measure that? Titegroup has it all low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. All but 2-3 of those are with handloadedammo. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. My brother gave me some Titegroup. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. You accidentally load this into a rifle, or a larger pistol cartridge, its super dangerous. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. A longtime resident of Virginia, Todd competes in over 16 different shooting disciplines (to include USPSA, 3-Gun, Steel Challenge, IDPA, Olympic Rapid Fire, Shotgun Shooting Sports). Seen a few of those over the years. Skip this one, you can do better. BrianEnos.com Shellholders: Lee #19 The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. The desire to know, when, how, and if he should take these shots along with an unquenched thirst for competition, lead Brian to shoot precision rifle events. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. JavaScript is disabled. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. Upgrade efforts paused for now. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. Wish i could find it again. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . and 8 lb. It is very aggravating not be able to find a load data for the particular bullet you'd like to use. I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. 1.100 in. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I don't pay so much attention to the bullet manufacturer when loading. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. 2.8 gr. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data horsegoalie Apr 24, 2013 H horsegoalie Rating - 100% 6 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2012 Messages 284 Likes 27 Apr 24, 2013 #1/11 I am starting a load with some Berry's 115gr RN plated bullets and Titegroup. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. We will pass. With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. I'll just try out 10-20 rds at min load and see how they go. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) C.O.A.L. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. Nam Vet, TiteGroup burns too fast for 9mm. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is.