Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. Tate has a dark spot on his lung, most likely a tumour, a spokesperson told Mail Online. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. Your email address will not be published. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. Media galore. The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. The Common Sense Guy you should put yourself on top of the list of deluded people. Forensic tests suggested the hair found in the car and at the murder scene came from Patricia. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. ): They boast glorious ocean views, but swathes of homes along America's coastlines are at risk of tumbling off CLIFFS due to erosion, rising sea levels and extreme weather events, Are YOU guilty of these gym sins? The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. Remember, killers have the advantage over investigators. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. Andrew Katrinak is never more than a foot away from his telephone. Andrew Katrinak in Colorado. The hair evidence is not compelling because theres a very good possibility that the evidence was compromised. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Which, for this very reason, is at present being investigated by a federal judge? I agree. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! There was also forensic evidence, obviously planted by them crooked cops, according to defenders. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. Counsel for Patricia Rorrer, 52, argued in Lehigh County Court that investigators mishandled DNA evidence, WFMZ-TV 69 reports. They are total bs. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. This weekDuke of York said he does not want to leave his mansion in the grounds of Windsor Castle despite telling friends he fears he will be unable to afford its upkeep if the King cuts his 250,000-a-year grant. Andrew Katrinak said he found his basement door ajar and removed from its hinges, and a phone line had been cut. The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. Thank you Kerry. Why would she say that maybe she wasnt really a good friend, just someone trying to inject herself into a super sensational case. If the answer is no, enough said! At 6 a.m. on June 24, 1997, police arrested Patricia at her modest house in Linwood, North Carolina, and took her back to Pennsylvania. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. Phone records dont lie.) Police believe Rorrer abducted and killed her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son in Pennsylvania. Andrew Katrinak reported missing his wife, Joanne and 3.5-month-old son, Alex, in December 1994. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Presumably if they thought the evidence was against the states case, thats how theyd present as theres no obvious reason for them to be biased one way or the other. Joanne didnt go missing until December 15, an entire week and a day later. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. Search it out and check for yourself. Published: 20:58 EST, 3 March 2023 | Updated: 21:02 EST, 3 March 2023. ``She told me she was praying about it.'. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. For the past two years, Patricia Lynne Rorrer was a watched woman. "Andrew was diagnosed with a serious medical condition in December 2022 whilst he was in Dubai," his representative told The Sun Online. No charmed life. The additions come as KFC recently removed some menu items, including wings, popcorn chicken and cookies, to make room for new additions. This is not a health issue to be taken lightly and all due diligence is being made to make sure he gets the best medical care that is available to him., The influencer has made appeals against his detention since his arrest. The influencer has From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. If I rolled my eyes any harder they might fall out. You have permission to edit this article. He helped her take horses to day care centers, where she would take photographs of children with the horses. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! His doctors have requested that he returns to Dubai for further testing. I dont think so. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. Glenn Myers, 50, who stabled Rorrer's horses in Tyro, said she was a loving horsewoman and mother. I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. (We didnt get into the specifics.). Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. He said his heart drops a couple of feet every time it rings. Tiffany, it is amazing you have all the answers to these murders! He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. Let me simplify this for you in religion, one is taught there is a God. SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! Hoist by your own petard. Two problems, then: a failure to see your own position as you see others (failure to comprehend irony), and failure to understand the difference between fact and opinion. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. She was always looking for a fight, Gary Gabard told the Morning Call, which noted that he was a head shorter than Patricia. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. I noticed quite a few errors myself. Andrew Katrinak said he found his basement door ajar and removed from its hinges, and a phone line had been cut. Walmart woe. Some volunteered their own time for this duty, Hege said. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. Too many people testified as to the type of person she was. I was able to email with Patricia via the PrisonConnect platform around Christmastime. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. THE COPS SET HER UP. From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. Trash-talking ex. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? Wheres the evidence that Patty was obsessed with Andy? Re Routier, the claim that she inflicted a potentially fatal injury on herself by no means indicates another perp: she could have inflicted it in ignorance, as a suicide attempt, or in a semi-psychotic state. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. Kurt Bresswein may be reached at kbresswein@lehighvalleylive.com. Have you read the book? PS Speculative lies is meaningless. Yes, that doesnt mean shes unquestionably guilty, but it does mean her case has been relatively exhaustively examined (and its not over) and it means that your assertion that you are right and the guilty camp are wrong (and that this should be obvious) is absurdly overplayed. Martin Domin Editor, Mirror Fighting. The reason Interpol was involved is because all three had different European citizens, as a result of which it was very difficult to follow the thread of the event. ``People who work with horses, they love 'em, rub 'em, pet 'em, and at the same time they can be firm with 'em, jerk their bits if they need to,' Hege said. The feminist in me is, like, hell yeah!: Will men take the male contraceptive pill? Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. What a contrived case! They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. I expect she will admit it one day. Thats my life.. At 4 a.m. Wednesday morning, several dozen of Rorrer's relatives and friends surrounded the courthouse, said Capt. We lived close to one another. Sometimes Teresa goes by various nicknames including Teresa Jean Katrinak, Teresa J Benchini, Teresa J Benckini and Teresa J Katrinak. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. ``This woman was a possible double murderer, so we had to protect the people out there,' Hege said. 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How is it that these women are paroled? Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Even though Joanne was supposed to take her mother-in-law for Christmas shopping, she never showed up. All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? View Andrew Katrinak's record in Drake, CO including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. Search their Criminal Records, Contact Info, Photos and More 1) Andrew Katrinak's Phone & Current Address, Andrew Katrinak's Phone #, Address & More, Andrew Katrinak's Contact Info, Social Profiles & More, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@gmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@yahoo, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@hotmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@aol, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@outlook. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. Dial-a-problem. Sorry, I must have missed your name on the witness list. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. Her mother, Patricia Chambers, provided day care for their baby son, Charles. They were there in the winter months in which the bodies would have been frozen most of the time. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. she didnt need to . Flaw in reasoning. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. But investigators conceded they had no solid evidence against Andrew. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). But I suppose you havent a clue about that. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. You seem to have a fragile ego. Some friends and neighbors find that hard to believe. To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. ``As good as she is with people and animals, I just can't believe it.'. Username. This woman killed and is where she belongs! Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. The District Attorney got this one right. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Discover address history, phone, age and more. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. 10:02, 3 Mar 2023; Updated 10:31, 3 Mar 2023; Controversial influencer Andrew Tate's medical . Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? Prince Andrew has offered to manage some of the prestigious Royal estates as part of his negotiations to leave his Royal mansion, Royal insiders have claimed that the King said 'there is no chance' of Andrew being allowed to manage the Royal estates, The Duke of York had offered to take over the management of Balmoral Castle - his late mother's beloved summer residence. Your details from Facebook will be used to provide you with tailored content, marketing and ads in line with our Privacy Policy. According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. Have you read the book? A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. Which explains why she made Joann kill the baby, or suffer from the environmental elements. Its definitely getting rougher every day, Andrew told the Morning Call. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. Pat had a string of bad relationships in her past and was not happy. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? Weak wages. Prince Andrew was seen smiling while riding a horse this morning despite tensions with King Charles who reportedly asked him to leave Royal Lodge. There are innocent people in prison. because theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged in, Please refresh your browser to be logged in, Isabel Oakeshott terminates interview after clashing with presenter over Hancock leak. Living on the edge (literally! Andrew Tates legal team has claimed he has a tumour as the detained influencer faces another month in a Romanian prison. That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. Bookmark. Username. This is the most ridiculous take ever! Police say Rorrer put a .22-caliber bullet in the mother's head, strangled the baby and placed him in the dead mother's arms. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? The state police dropped him as a suspect. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. After 30 minutes Id be calling someone! Killers can plan all the details and alibis well ahead of the murder while cops must come up with hard evidence, even just to make an arrest. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. You may not use our site or service, or the information provided, to make decisions about employment, admission, consumer credit, insurance, tenant screening or any other purpose that would require FCRA compliance. So lets get going on the recap of the Forensic Files episode A Woman Scorned, along with extra information drawn from internet research: Joann Marie OConnor was born on Oct. 11, 1968, the youngest of Sarah and David OConnors four children. Angry that Joann hung up on her, she stalked her for three days, then broke into her basement and cut the phone line, put a gun to Joanns head as she was placing Alex in the car, and forced her to drive to the rural area. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? Teresa Katrinak is 56 years old and was born on 06/29/1966. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! ``I can't believe I was alone with her,' a tearful Bruner said Tuesday evening. Acquaintances said Rorrer started dating Brian Ward, 34, in 1995. They broke up in 1993. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been imprisoned in Romania since late December on suspected rape and human trafficking offences. Accused of two murders, she will be extradited to Pennsylvania today. They were telling the truth and revealing the type of person she was, a person that definitely would kill out of jealousy and revenge. . The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. Katrinak said he is waiting to hear from his 26-year-old wife,. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? She never had anyone testify against her but an ex-boyfriend! Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. Follow him on Twitter @KurtBresswein. Jealousy was the motive. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. Rest in peace Joann and Alex. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. Jul 11, 1929 - Sep 10, 2011 (Age 82) Plant Memorial Trees Opens send flowers url in a new window Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. OK my GUESS is Patricia did do it! It seems so, according to you. Thank you and well said. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char.
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